Johnny DangerouslyJohnny Dangerously (1984)

IMDB rating: 5.80

Plot: Set in the 1930’s, an honest, goodhearted man is forced to turn to a life of crime to finance his neurotic mother’s skyrocketing medical bills.

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Directors: Heckerling Amy

Actors: Keaton Michael,Piscopo Joe,Boyle Peter,Dunne Griffin,DeLuise Dom,Dimitri Richard,DeVito Danny,Carey Ron,Walston Ray,Butkus Dick,Thames Byron,Hale Jr. Alan,Comedy,Crime,

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Dealing with kids in Kindergarten as a room-helper/volunteer?
I was wondering how to handle these situations in Kindergarten when I’m the room-helper. I faced these when my older kid was in K and hope to be prepared with my younger one. Other than firmly repeating "Do not ….", there seems to be nothing I have the authority to do.
Examples:
- Kid rocks chair back and forth dangerously
- Kid dilly dallies in bathroom and I’m supposed to take them all quickly to the library
- Kid keeps grabbing other kid’s books/paper/crayons.
- Kid just puts head down on table and refuse to look up
- Keep talking even when we are reading a poem together
- Run into classroom during recess

the list continues. Teacher has consequences explained to kids, but I canot enforce them. I cannot tell the teacher either, it is like tattling. I tried it once, and the teacher just loudly said "Class,be nice to Mrs…,she is here to help us…". Kids continue to misbehave.
so, what can I do other than repeat firmly "Johnny, do not rock your chair"???
I am looking for suggestions other than "talk to the teacher". That does not seem to help much.

Helping at our Kindergarten involves more than just reading a book or keeping an eye on them. The room-helper actually is there for the whole 3.5 hrs. Kids are divided into 3 groups for each activity and room-helper handles a group independently, and the AM & PM teachers handle the other two. So, they are busy with their own group, and cannot help room-helper.

But room-helper does not have authority to move clip, give timeout, take away free time or move the kid’s spot to another chair at the same table.

It seems like the room-helper is given a lot of responsibility without as much authority. I could choose not to volunteer, but I really want to, atleast for a few months.


For the rocking chair I would hold the chair in place and not let it rock.

For the dilly dallies I would ask if they need help going pee-pee.

For the grabby kids I would remove the books paper and crayons so the first kid couldn’t reach them, and stand in between the 2 kids.

For the kid with his head down I would ask if he feels okay or if he needs to see the nurse.

For the ones who keep talking I would slam a book down to make a loud startling noise every time they start talking, then continue reading when they stop.

I would lock the classroom door during recess.

Most often you want to either block the children or try to find out the reason for why they are misbehaving. Instead of just saying "do not" try to provide another behavior instead.

Ivy G | Jul 30, 2008


Do these kids like you?

You have to be the authority figure. Show them who is the box.
When they act up with shoving crayons. Take all his crayons and put them up. When that kid is rocking the rocking chair hold on to the chair and tell him to sit in the floor. Don’t use your hands. Use your eyes. Kids get scared easily. I don’t know why you are having problems. And don’t let the teachers talk down on you. They sound like they are being mean for a reason like to show you its not easy being a teacher really when it is. And pick one favorite to show that if they all are good they will be treated the same just like the favorite.
Lundy Lover | Jul 30, 2008


something that works well is giving rewards for good behaviour rather than only punishments/scolding for poor behaviour…

you can try keeping a cache of small prizes to give to those who behave… they dont even have to be prizes that the kids keep, but even something they get to keep at their seat for the day, or pin to their shirt or something….

something else that might work, if they’re young enough, is to praise those kids who are behaving well instead of pointing out the ones who arent… ie "I like how Matthew is sitting nicely in his chair" rather than "Johnny, do not rock your chair"
Jen-ee-fur | Jul 30, 2008


Some of the kids who keep moving are adhd and some are autisitic.We had atwo in sons class who were not diagnosed by 1 or 2 grade not til they moved so some school districts don’t even look into wh the child is behaving this way.

Another was a girl who was putting ketchup in her chocolate milk and doing things she shouldnt her step father was molesting her.(eventually arrested but he had been on school campus many a time)
Not all kids are perfect yes they need to mind and learn consequences but be firm and loving …some are need of attention.
hugsandhissyfits | Jul 30, 2008


"But room-helper does not have authority to move clip, give timeout, take away free time or move the kid’s spot to another chair at the same table."

Then unfortunately, without much authority, you have to deal with it as you have been doing.
CEM | Jul 30, 2008


Ivy G has got it right. That’s what I would do.
I would add: in the bathroom, remind them the fun they’ll have in the library. Talking while you’re reading – after you slam the book, look them in the eye, stare them down – say ‘I mean business’ without saying a word. If it’s two kids talking all the time, separate them.
For the child who puts his head down and refuse to look up – that’s tough!! I would probably try simple distraction – ‘Johnny, look at this!!!’ and when he looks up, say something like ‘Oh, so you CAN lift your head up.’
If there’s one particular child causing problem, you might just want to take the initiative and talk to the parents – explain that you don’t have any authority and you would appreciate them talking to their child.

‘Hugsandhissyfits’ is well meaning, but lets not forget that ADD, ADHD and autism are the most over diagnosed and misdiagnosed ‘diseases’ there are. They are so often diagnosed by teachers, who – surprise- are not doctors or otherwise qualified to make such diagnose. And school district receive extra paycheck for these children with ‘disability’ without having to do anything special for them (in many cases).
Good luck.
em | Jul 30, 2008


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